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Post by ayezatulbrite on May 6, 2012 10:48:55 GMT -5
Hiya, I suggest entering BIOS upon startup and disabling the onboard video. Once that is done, the system should use the video card. If I disable the onboard video I'd need to restart the computer. If the graphics card still does not work, then I'm left with no video at all and no way to access the BIOS! I'm not sure the BIOS has such an option. I suspect it is something to do with the video cable. Maybe a dodgy solder joint? Frankly, I dunno!
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Post by ayezatulbrite on May 6, 2012 10:56:27 GMT -5
Glad you got it working. What sort of stuff do you use the computer for? If you just do basic stuff like browsing and email and word processing and a bit of music playing/storage and youtube videos then a dedicated card isn't really necessary. The in-built video in the i3 can easily handle that. Very odd that in this instance it wasn't working and now all of a sudden it is but hey, why complain about good shit, right? I just use it for the internet and listening to music. I might use it for some CAD in the future. I used to play some games on it but got fed up with the "quality" of some of the games I was buying, so haven't really done that for about 3 or 4 years. I might try playing Europa Universalis on it maybe!? I just had the graphics card so I thought I'd better get it to work otherwise what's the point in having it. And it does run slightly smoother when watching videos. I've been rewiring the power supplies to make them less noisy and to make the music sound better. Also was gonna archive my CDs so I wanted to improve the power supply so that there would be less interpolation when playing CDs. All this rewiring meant plugging and unplugging which tends to confuse this particualr motherboard for some reason.
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Post by StormInateacup on May 6, 2012 11:02:01 GMT -5
Nano-muslims (I so wanted Spazmosis to have the solution - all gobbleylgook to me, but it sounded convincing.) I know he's so clever innit? I am the least computer savvy person on the planet (apart from Panther apparently whose solution to all digital issues appears to be extreme violence) and yet computer geeks always seem to like me. **thinks** I guess they just need someone to feel superior to hanging around, huh?
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Post by spazmosis on May 7, 2012 4:30:01 GMT -5
Hiya, I suggest entering BIOS upon startup and disabling the onboard video. Once that is done, the system should use the video card. If I disable the onboard video I'd need to restart the computer. If the graphics card still does not work, then I'm left with no video at all and no way to access the BIOS! I'm not sure the BIOS has such an option. I suspect it is something to do with the video cable. Maybe a dodgy solder joint? Frankly, I dunno! Yes, you are correct, if you go to bios, disable the onboard video, power off, try the card and the card doesn't work you'd be left with no video card working and no onboard video to let you see what you're doing enough to go back into the bios and re-enable the onboard video EXCEPT....if you get to that point, you've established that the card truly isn't working (trouble shot it) and you can quite easily take the small watch battery (called the CMOS battery) off the motherboard. The job of this battery is to provide enough power to the motherboard to remember the time and the BIOS settings when the computer is powered off. If you take that battery out for 10 minutes and then put it back, that will reset your BIOS to default and by the sounds of things, your BIOS default setting is to use the onboard video, or at least, it should be because your motherboard clearly has onboard video as an option.
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Post by StormInateacup on May 7, 2012 4:34:57 GMT -5
If I disable the onboard video I'd need to restart the computer. If the graphics card still does not work, then I'm left with no video at all and no way to access the BIOS! I'm not sure the BIOS has such an option. I suspect it is something to do with the video cable. Maybe a dodgy solder joint? Frankly, I dunno! Yes, you are correct, if you go to bios, disable the onboard video, power off, try the card and the card doesn't work you'd be left with no video card working and no onboard video to let you see what you're doing enough to go back into the bios and re-enable the onboard video EXCEPT....if you get to that point, you've established that the card truly isn't working (trouble shot it) and you can quite easily take the small watch battery (called the CMOS battery) off the motherboard. The job of this battery is to provide enough power to the motherboard to remember the time and the BIOS settings when the computer is powered off. If you take that battery out for 10 minutes and then put it back, that will reset your BIOS to default and by the sounds of things, your BIOS default setting is to use the onboard video, or at least, it should be because your motherboard clearly has onboard video as an option. My head hurts just reading that.
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Post by spazmosis on May 7, 2012 4:40:27 GMT -5
Glad you got it working. What sort of stuff do you use the computer for? If you just do basic stuff like browsing and email and word processing and a bit of music playing/storage and youtube videos then a dedicated card isn't really necessary. The in-built video in the i3 can easily handle that. Very odd that in this instance it wasn't working and now all of a sudden it is but hey, why complain about good shit, right? I just use it for the internet and listening to music. I might use it for some CAD in the future. I used to play some games on it but got fed up with the "quality" of some of the games I was buying, so haven't really done that for about 3 or 4 years. I might try playing Europa Universalis on it maybe!? I just had the graphics card so I thought I'd better get it to work otherwise what's the point in having it. And it does run slightly smoother when watching videos. I've been rewiring the power supplies to make them less noisy and to make the music sound better. Also was gonna archive my CDs so I wanted to improve the power supply so that there would be less interpolation when playing CDs. All this rewiring meant plugging and unplugging which tends to confuse this particualr motherboard for some reason. Hell yeah, if you have a video card you really wanna use it. Even the shittest cards are miles better than any current onboard solution. What video card do you have?? What's the model of the motherboard. This info will help me loads in figuring out your problem and now that i've started i've gotta get a damn solution. Knowing the model of the motherboard and the card will give me mostly info about what you could possibly be doing wrong. While you're at it, what's the model of the power supply? You really shouldn't be rewiring the power supply at all. The power supply is the box shaped thing sitting either at the bottom or the top of the rear of the case (in the interior of course) It should have all the connection (plugs etc) necessary to power all your components. It really shouldn't need rewiring and i strongly advise against doing that if you aren't a sparky. The power supply is perhaps the most important component of a computer because if it shits itself it can take your components with it. That's why people who build computers will only buy power supplies from a few selected companies that are known for quality. If by rewiring you mean making all the cables coming from the power supply to your components nice and neat and ordered rather than a tangled mess, then that's a good thing. It's called cable management and helps with airflow which is what you want :-)
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Post by spazmosis on May 7, 2012 4:43:42 GMT -5
Yeah sorry Storminacup. As i was writing it i was wondering if there was too much unnecessary detail.
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Post by StormInateacup on May 7, 2012 4:48:02 GMT -5
Yeah sorry Storminacup. As i was writing it i was wondering if there was too much unnecessary detail. Only for cretins like me. I'm sure Ayez understood just what you meant.
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Post by spazmosis on May 7, 2012 5:05:05 GMT -5
Yeah sorry Storminacup. As i was writing it i was wondering if there was too much unnecessary detail. Only for cretins like me. I'm sure Ayez understood just what you meant. You aint no cretin. You is a smart cookie. Sadly, not smart enough to appreciate the fine game of cricket and cultural LEGENDS like Warnie but i won't hold it against ya. Why isn't you watching Masterchef??
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Post by StormInateacup on May 7, 2012 18:49:03 GMT -5
Only for cretins like me. I'm sure Ayez understood just what you meant. You aint no cretin. You is a smart cookie. Sadly, not smart enough to appreciate the fine game of cricket and cultural LEGENDS like Warnie but i won't hold it against ya. Why isn't you watching Masterchef?? I hate Masterchef...they're a mob of blubbery Yuppie wankers and attention whores. Note I am treating the Warnie quip with the contempt it deserves. **glares**
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Post by StormInateacup on May 7, 2012 18:50:29 GMT -5
NB: When used in relation to Warnie btw that word is spelled "KULCHA"....or more often "FUCKEN KULCHA MATE"
Just sayin'.
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Post by ayezatulbrite on May 7, 2012 20:21:37 GMT -5
Hell yeah, if you have a video card you really wanna use it. Even the shittest cards are miles better than any current onboard solution. What video card do you have?? What's the model of the motherboard. This info will help me loads in figuring out your problem and now that i've started i've gotta get a damn solution. Knowing the model of the motherboard and the card will give me mostly info about what you could possibly be doing wrong. While you're at it, what's the model of the power supply? You really shouldn't be rewiring the power supply at all. The power supply is the box shaped thing sitting either at the bottom or the top of the rear of the case (in the interior of course) It should have all the connection (plugs etc) necessary to power all your components. It really shouldn't need rewiring and i strongly advise against doing that if you aren't a sparky. The power supply is perhaps the most important component of a computer because if it shits itself it can take your components with it. That's why people who build computers will only buy power supplies from a few selected companies that are known for quality. If by rewiring you mean making all the cables coming from the power supply to your components nice and neat and ordered rather than a tangled mess, then that's a good thing. It's called cable management and helps with airflow which is what you want :-) Let's see, it's an ATI Radeon X800GT from about 2007. I'm sure they're a lot faster now. The MB is an ASUS P8H61-MLE USB3. The power supply is a Corsair HX520W. I wanna blame the MB. Now it doesn't want to recognise the DVD drive! I had to buy an IDE to USB convertor as the MB only has SATA inputs. Maybe that's upsetting the MB?? I think the MB is VERY TEMPERAMENTAL. I acccidentally knocked the monitor over about 6 m onths ago and I thinbk the cable might have been damaged a little.... again..... I DUNNO!!!
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Post by ayezatulbrite on May 7, 2012 20:30:50 GMT -5
You really shouldn't be rewiring the power supply at all. The power supply is the box shaped thing sitting either at the bottom or the top of the rear of the case (in the interior of course) It should have all the connection (plugs etc) necessary to power all your components. It really shouldn't need rewiring and i strongly advise against doing that if you aren't a sparky. The power supply is perhaps the most important component of a computer because if it shits itself it can take your components with it. That's why people who build computers will only buy power supplies from a few selected companies that are known for quality. If by rewiring you mean making all the cables coming from the power supply to your components nice and neat and ordered rather than a tangled mess, then that's a good thing. It's called cable management and helps with airflow which is what you want :-) Too late! I've taken thye 24 pin ATX connector and knocked about 16cm of it. I took the 12v connector and took about 10 cm off that. I took the cables fro the fans and shortened them by about 10 cm each. I also twisted a few cables as well! I was gonna twist the wires for the 24 pin ATX connector but it had something like 7 grounds and 12 other voltage wires and a few other sods that I'm not sure what they were! I dunno what would happen if i twisted a 12v ground with a 3.3v power line?? So i just played safe and kept them untwisted. Also put a ferrite clamp around it. I also gave it the special treatment, which I can't disclose because it's intellectual property!
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Post by ayezatulbrite on May 7, 2012 20:32:00 GMT -5
I would not recommend anyone else do this as it takes ages and if you bugger it up that's the end of your computer!
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Post by StormInateacup on May 7, 2012 20:39:43 GMT -5
You really shouldn't be rewiring the power supply at all. The power supply is the box shaped thing sitting either at the bottom or the top of the rear of the case (in the interior of course) It should have all the connection (plugs etc) necessary to power all your components. It really shouldn't need rewiring and i strongly advise against doing that if you aren't a sparky. The power supply is perhaps the most important component of a computer because if it shits itself it can take your components with it. That's why people who build computers will only buy power supplies from a few selected companies that are known for quality. If by rewiring you mean making all the cables coming from the power supply to your components nice and neat and ordered rather than a tangled mess, then that's a good thing. It's called cable management and helps with airflow which is what you want :-) Too late! I've taken thye 24 pin ATX connector and knocked about 16cm of it. I took the 12v connector and took about 10 cm off that. I took the cables fro the fans and shortened them by about 10 cm each. I also twisted a few cables as well! I was gonna twist the wires for the 24 pin ATX connector but it had something like 7 grounds and 12 other voltage wires and a few other sods that I'm not sure what they were! I dunno what would happen if i twisted a 12v ground with a 3.3v power line?? So i just played safe and kept them untwisted. Also put a ferrite clamp around it. I also gave it the special treatment, which I can't disclose because it's intellectual property! His Special Treatment may be found at: thebluecaterpillar.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=science&action=display&thread=177and thebluecaterpillar.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=science&action=display&thread=319just FYI. I would not recommend anyone else do this as it takes ages and if you bugger it up that's the end of your computer! oh and a goodly dose of and may I just say: I am sorry for your lots.
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