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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2012 16:59:53 GMT -5
Ok first off, Jenne refers to everyone as dude so don't take offense.
Second, you may want to re-read what you wrote and what was written in response. You are knee jerking.
I mean I don't agree with you about Obama at all, I just tend to make it more of a joke than anything. It doesn't mean I like you less.
I think Americans have a bad opinion of the muslim faith and you can blame George Bush and his group of hatemongering idiots for that. In truth, it's just a religion and all the bullshit you hear from the republican party is just that, bullshit. They aren't all out to kill Americans nor is the demise of the western world their #1 agenda.
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Post by marisol on Apr 23, 2012 18:31:05 GMT -5
Hare how may times did I say I have nothing against the muslim faith. I thought it was several. I didn't bring up Palin she did. I said I respected all religions. I did ask if he would respect mine and you know he wouldn't. I said Obama denied his muslim faith to be more appealing to voters. I did not insult her or her husband. She was the one that made it about religion. I don't dislike or get angry at anyone because they don't agree with me. But I won't stand by and have someone put words in my mouth. Sorry
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Post by admin on Apr 23, 2012 18:37:37 GMT -5
Is there any evidence, other than right wing babel, to verify that he did switch religions for the election? Quantifiable evidence.
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Post by marisol on Apr 23, 2012 20:47:06 GMT -5
I will no longer comment on this subject for fear I will say something not politically correct. Figure it out for yourselves.
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Post by admin on Apr 23, 2012 21:22:53 GMT -5
Heh, PC for the sake of it is not welcome. Having said that, neither are racist remarks.
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Post by StormInateacup on Apr 23, 2012 21:44:19 GMT -5
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Post by StormInateacup on Apr 23, 2012 21:46:54 GMT -5
Ok first off, Jenne refers to everyone as dude so don't take offense. Second, you may want to re-read what you wrote and what was written in response. You are knee jerking. I mean I don't agree with you about Obama at all, I just tend to make it more of a joke than anything. It doesn't mean I like you less. I think Americans have a bad opinion of the muslim faith and you can blame George Bush and his group of hatemongering idiots for that. In truth, it's just a religion and all the bullshit you hear from the republican party is just that, bullshit. They aren't all out to kill Americans nor is the demise of the western world their #1 agenda. SO MUCH OF THIS
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Post by Jenne on Apr 24, 2012 7:59:35 GMT -5
Hunn don't call me dude (if you were referring to me). Just because you are married to an Afghan means little to me. There will be a war over there somewhere for the rest of history. They have been waring for a thousand years. The only question is will the US be involved? Probably. Because we are the UN's army. They ask, we go! It is just a matter of time before there is a blow-up over there. It has little to do with what party or president is in power in the US. I don't want our children over there. As far as I'm concerned all of our military should be called home from the middle east and let them figure it out on their own. You need to then watch them words, Dudette. (Is that better?) I think the thrust of what you were saying is worse than what you actually meant. It may just be your style of writing, who knows. It's a bit...hackneyed. But you seem to have already given up. Charley and the Hare know me, know me well. I'm no warmongering spitfire hawk...I'm all for peace--here, in the Middle East, etc. My second "job" if you will is advocating for better public school education for US children (all children in the US, black, brown, white, poor, rich, etc.). Be that as it may--it's terribly sad when someone cries out "Obama's a MOOSELIM! HE BAD!"...because it shows a lack of education, a lack of media savvy and smarts, and a lack of fundamental reasoning. Muslims are just like you n me, by the way. They love their kids, they want to do right by their families and they earn their bread to feed themselves and those they live with. Start by accepting that premise, and then go on to what you spouted about before I laid into you. And yes, I laid into you. I won't apologize for that. If I attacked Wicca or Witchcraft, I have a feeling your back would be up. Am I wrong?
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Post by Jenne on Apr 24, 2012 8:03:06 GMT -5
Palin does not enter into this discussion anyway. She has no chance of getting nominated. So why even worry about her. Just something to argue about because you feel I insulted you. Well I didn't insult you or your husband. In a roundabout way, yeah, you did. You intimated that Obama's unfit because he's a "Secret Muslim." So what if he was? I brought up Palin because she embodies what a large part of the Republican government is targeting and has been on and on about since 2008. The so-called Tea Party Politics. But again, you are ignoring a large part of all that. You just want to go on a campaign of "Obama sucks, anyone but him." My opposition to that is rather strong. Because it's the Tea Partiers who would see folks like my husband in Gitmo, and probably my kids along with him, just for his heritage. How many folks in them Tea Party circles do you think would accept "honest Americans" marrying into "the enemy camps" and taking up with the Muslims/Afghans, etc.? How many? I'm thinking: precious damned few.
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Post by Jenne on Apr 24, 2012 8:07:22 GMT -5
Hare how may times did I say I have nothing against the muslim faith. I thought it was several. I didn't bring up Palin she did. I said I respected all religions. I did ask if he would respect mine and you know he wouldn't. I said Obama denied his muslim faith to be more appealing to voters. I did not insult her or her husband. She was the one that made it about religion. I don't dislike or get angry at anyone because they don't agree with me. But I won't stand by and have someone put words in my mouth. Sorry You insulted Muslims by proxy, sorry. You maybe did it intentionally, but whatever. I was almost going to let this go, but I'm treating you like you can understand what I'm writing. I'm not angry at you--you'd know it if I was. But perhaps now you'll not assume that everyone's the same on this board. That there are people here that might disagree with your point of view re: what a "secret Muslim" would be. And by the way, the language you used in this post above that I just quoted was much more reasonable than those first few posts I took exception to earlier on in the thread. And I never saw you say you had nothing against Islam until this post, sorry. Perhaps you said it elsewhere?
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Post by marisol on Apr 24, 2012 17:36:00 GMT -5
Yes Marisol can be a knee jerker as Khara said. I believe that she knows me well enough to know I would not hurt anyone on purpose. Except Blue who deserves it.
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Post by admin on Apr 24, 2012 17:53:50 GMT -5
Thing is political discussions can get heated, the key is to know when to pull back and clear the air a bit, very much like you have done here!
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Post by bigwillybear on Apr 24, 2012 17:59:54 GMT -5
Why do pigeons fly upside down over Liverpool?
cos there's nothing worth shitting on.
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Post by admin on Apr 24, 2012 18:04:54 GMT -5
Why do pigeons fly upside down over Liverpool? cos there's nothing worth shitting on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 18:21:22 GMT -5
no matter you all suck at appreciation. my Big Bird thing was some funny shit.
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