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Post by ayezatulbrite on Aug 30, 2012 10:40:03 GMT -5
America seems to be wedded to Israel because a lot of Jews died at the hands of the Nazis. Well, a hell of a lot of Chinese and Russians died in WW2. The Congo has probably suffered more Genocide than the Jews.
When (King?) Leopold of Belgium was in control of the Congo, he would send soldiers to the villages to cut the hands off children if they did not harvest enough rubber.
What help does the Congo get from America? Pretty much FUCK ALL!
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Post by ayezatulbrite on Aug 30, 2012 10:40:50 GMT -5
I was gonna ask this on Y!A but then i figured; waste of time!
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Post by StormInateacup on Aug 30, 2012 13:11:05 GMT -5
Well it's not a waste of time to ask there if you;re after a few laughs at Zionist apologists and a pithy little Violation notice, but if you want an actual answer....... The real reason is at once complex and simplistic. The US, with its thirst for oil and hegemony needs a warm port in the Middle East and Israel gives it that in spades. It is also, because of the massive Jewish voting bloc at home and the reliance of both major parties for funding by Zionist controlled financial and corporate entities, a massive vote getter and money spinner on the domestic front. warincontext.org/2012/08/22/the-u-s-weapons-depots-in-israel-fully-stocked-and-ready-for-war/The relationship has deepened frighteningly in recent years in the military sense, with massive US weapons arsenals now being held inside Israel which the Israelis have now got full and open access to. The cheeky cunts!! Imagine any other US ally being allowed to get away with that shit?
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Post by marisol on Aug 30, 2012 13:52:40 GMT -5
America won't refuse Israel the use of those weapons. You see its a big secret..shsss...they were put there for Israel to use.
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Post by The Mad Hatter on Aug 30, 2012 14:08:13 GMT -5
The US is a Territory of Israel.
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Post by marisol on Aug 30, 2012 14:10:01 GMT -5
Well there you go.
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Post by kelly on Aug 30, 2012 14:19:31 GMT -5
I was gonna ask this on Y!A but then i figured; waste of time! Good call...if anyone understood the question, you wouldn't get any intelligent answers.
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Post by StormInateacup on Aug 30, 2012 14:29:05 GMT -5
Just a side bar...I'm working on that avvy - I've had two now and they've both gone a bit squishy on the squeezing down process...will keep going till I get one who doesnt...kay??
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Post by marisol on Aug 30, 2012 15:18:10 GMT -5
ok I do trust you with my avvy.
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Post by marisol on Aug 30, 2012 16:11:33 GMT -5
In thinking about this we ask ourselves is there a worse country to be married to? Will they stand behind us? They are like our favorite girl friend in the Middle East. The only country we can halfway trust. Apparently so. My nephew is going to Irag or Afghanistan within the next month, he is 21 yrs old. I would much rather he went to Israel. Apparently the lie about bring ing the troops home was the truth. He is an ammunitions expert and is only suppose to ship ammunition where it's needed. He's not suppose to be in the fighting, I hope that is true.
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Post by marisol on Aug 30, 2012 16:29:54 GMT -5
My nephew's name is Joshua, he has a 5 yr old son. Many young adults join the military to be able to attend college and give their children more than they have had. He was promised he could finish college before being shipped anywhere. Seemed to me they lied.
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Post by firesong on Aug 30, 2012 18:27:21 GMT -5
My nephew's name is Joshua, he has a 5 yr old son. Many young adults join the military to be able to attend college and give their children more than they have had. He was promised he could finish college before being shipped anywhere. Seemed to me they lied. Any time you joint the armed services, you have to at least come to grips with the fact that you may be called upon to fight and die. It's not a college assistance program; it's a group of people whose only reason to exist is to break things and kill people. I'm sorry your nephew has to go, but if he joined up, it's a consequence of his actions. You can't ever believe what a recruiter tells you...
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Post by BadBeast on Aug 30, 2012 18:28:10 GMT -5
America's relationship with Israel is a long and complex one. Ever since it's creation after WWII, America and Israel have enjoyed a rather unhealthy co-dependency. Just under the surface, we can see the dynamics that have made this relationship so dangerous to the rest of the World.
In all areas of US Government regarding the Middle East Foreign Policy, American Jews sympathetic to Israel dominate key positions in all pertinent areas. Much of the basis for America's bias towards Israel and Middle Eastern Policy, is traceable back to this fact. Look at the lucrative Arms deals America has had with Israel. These were cemented even before the 6 Day War. Israel used American bought war planes to take out any Syrian Air capabilities in one pre-emptive strike.
Ever since the end of WWII, it has been in Western (And esp US) strategic interests to maintain the Middle East as a "Low intensity Conflict Zone". It ensured that the many oil-rich States had a common enemy that wasn't (at least, overtly) America to distract them, long enough to install "US Friendly" puppet regimes in the newly formed Iran and Iraq. And of course, the tiny little State of Kuwait, with it's little strip of coastline, and borders with both, allowing a constant gush of crude to be pumped out to to Western Oil companies.
Then when the plan backfired for Iran and the Shah was deposed, a new factor entered the equation. The rise of Fundamentalist Islam. The Ayatollahs took over with a radical "Anti-American" stance, so the whole Iran/Iraq War was set up to try and replace, or at least distract the Islamists away from America, while it continued to suck oil from the area.
The whole US anti Islamic movement has been carefully engineered by those rich and powerful American Jews, in order to increase Israel's Military presence as the only non-Islamic State in the Middle East. This makes it more difficult for America to withdraw Military and Cultural ties, because once Israel goes under, America is next on the shitlist.
Then, domestically, there's the Anti-Defamation League. This makes it virtually impossible for anyone to say anything remotely disparaging about "Jews". Their PR and Litigation people portray anyone who says anything deemed "anti-Semitic" as a bunch of holocaust denying neo Nazis. On the strength of keeping "The Holocaust" nice and fresh in everyone's minds.
I've been thinking for a while now, that WWII was fought as a blind, and guided by secret societies, whose real agenda was the creation of a fascist Zionist Israel. The subversion of Israeli politics by those powerful American Jews and their Political lobbyists ensured Zionism was "flavour of the day" with their Oligarchal Paymasters, and Israel's military footprint has grown all over the Middle East as a direct result.
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Post by firesong on Aug 30, 2012 18:29:19 GMT -5
Another big reason for supporting Israel is that there are a lot of former Americans who emigrated there, and became citizens... there's a tie between our people that doesn't exist elsewhere.
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Post by ayezatulbrite on Aug 30, 2012 18:50:19 GMT -5
My nephew's name is Joshua, he has a 5 yr old son. Many young adults join the military to be able to attend college and give their children more than they have had. He was promised he could finish college before being shipped anywhere. Seemed to me they lied. that's why they create the poverty; to force people into the military
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