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Post by marisol on May 12, 2012 18:45:00 GMT -5
This has to do with the 2nd amendment, not religion, not the election. If anyone wishes to beat me about the head please do not leave bruises. Hillary Clinton recently announced the Obama Admin. will be working with the UN to pass a new "Small Arms Treaty." If passed and ratifyed by the US Senate it would almost certainly cause the US to: Enact tougher licensing requirements, Confiscate and destroy all unauthorized civilian firearms, Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons, and create an international gun registry.
Our 2nd Amendment must be protected at all costs. It gives us our right to own and bear arms. It guarantees us our right to protect our families from those that would cause us harm. Why should any other country have a say in what we do with this right?
Our ancestors fought and died for this right. Do we allow our children any less than this same freedom. You may say oh that doesn't look like much, but once lost we won't be able to get it back. One American can help make a stand and make a difference But millions of Americans standing together can win the battle.
Tell your Senators to vote NO on the Small Arms Treaty.
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Post by The Mad Hatter on May 12, 2012 20:21:48 GMT -5
A UN agreement cannot take precedence over our constitution. In a perfect world.
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Post by marisol on May 12, 2012 20:35:44 GMT -5
Yes so I have been told before.
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Post by StormInateacup on May 13, 2012 1:51:28 GMT -5
This really is an attack on the ability of citizens to defend themselves. Not against a robber or a mugger so much as against their own governments. It is far from being just the US this is aimed at. Let's keep in mind it is thr WORLD Treaty on Small Arms. Face facts. In the past century as the linked article points out, more civilians have died at the hands of their own rulers than have been the victims of crime or casualties in a war of aggression. Mao, Stalin, Peron, Marcos, that cunt in Brazil, (forgot his name) the junta in Argentina, Pinochet - It IS a step in the inexorable journey to oppress and subjugate and enslave us all. When we no longer have the means to rebel they can dio as they please and shoot us down in the streets as we bleat. Seriously. Liberal gun control advocates need to put aside a life time of prejudice and propaganda about "what kind of person owns a gun" and start hoping like hell they haven't left it all too late to wake up to what is happening here. I live in a country in which private gun ownership has been all but eradicated and since that happened I have watched as freedom after freedom has been taken from us in bits and pieces and special legislation and wars on bike gangs and I am here to tell you - do NOT allow it to happen in your country. I seems that signing this treaty will indeed over ride the right of states to make gun laws. It's a major blow - another one to both the Second AND the Tenth Amendments. eta: Forgot me link www.thedailybell.com/2843/Adrian-Krieg-The-Proposed-UN-Small-Arms-Treaty-pushed-by-Hillary-Clinton
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Post by The Mad Hatter on May 13, 2012 7:42:45 GMT -5
Article IV
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
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Post by marisol on May 13, 2012 20:16:15 GMT -5
Article II ........the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed upon.
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Post by StormInateacup on May 14, 2012 4:33:04 GMT -5
Article IV "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." Article II ........the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed upon. US Constitution (Bill of Rights) vs The US Patriot ActAmendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. US Patriot Act"Freedom from unreasonable searches: The government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist a terror investigation. Amendment VI: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. The Patriot ActRight to a speedy and public trial: The government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial. Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Patriot Act"Freedom of association: To assist terror investigation, the government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity. Amendment VI: ... to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. Patriot Act:Right to legal representation: The government may monitor conversations between attorneys and clients in federal prisons and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes. Amendment I: Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech ... Patriot Act:Freedom of speech: The government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation. Amendment VI: ... to be confronted with the witnesses against him Patriot Act:Right to liberty: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them. US citizens (labeled "unlawful combatants") have been held incommunicado and refused attorneys. Constitutional Source: Cornell Law School rt.com/programs/big-picture/patriot-act-second-amendment/
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Post by StormInateacup on May 14, 2012 4:48:42 GMT -5
Oh and the Reauthorisation Act was passed last week. Obummer will be signing it into law this week: www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/7/coming-to-a-sky-near-you/#.T6_Pc4TrPkA.facebookThey've pissed all over it. That beautiful document. If you had taken to the streets to defend ti before the first of the Patriot Acts was passed it would have defended you. It couldn't protect you from a draft under the door now. How did you all let that happen? How did a nation of people founded by intellectual revolutionaries become so inert, so passive, so fucking dogshit dumb and blinded by their fear and their prejudice against Islam that they allowed the criminals in charge of them to take that jewel from under their noses and crush it to powder? How I envied you all for having it. It gave you something no one else in the world has ever had - the possibility of attaining personal freedom.
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Post by MOLEY on May 14, 2012 6:27:57 GMT -5
I hope I never need to have bear arms, too hairy for lady mole.
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Post by marisol on May 14, 2012 11:31:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 11:51:49 GMT -5
Why are you upset?
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Post by StormInateacup on May 14, 2012 12:00:32 GMT -5
I've shown a few people that breakdown of how and where The Patriot Act has ripped the guts out of your Constitution over the years. It often has that effect on someone who is seeing in in black and white, starkly laid out, for the first time. I understand it utterly. I took my breath away when I first began researching it - and it's not even my Bill of Rights. We have never had one. All our rights are in set Common Law - and Precedent Law. So you know - we never actually had any to lose.
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Post by Sita on May 14, 2012 12:08:06 GMT -5
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Post by MOLEY on May 14, 2012 13:08:00 GMT -5
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