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Post by StormInateacup on Jul 23, 2012 13:17:20 GMT -5
Unless you're the one promulgating it, which at prresent I am. My mate Mark Ure has written a book You Could've Thought of That - about all the great ideas none of us have never had.... yet. It's available to be prdered online in hard copy. A steal at under 10 qid (about $14 US) and here it is!! www.lulu.com/shop/mark-a-ure/you-couldve-thought-of-that-a-compendium-of-ideas-which-havent-been-thought-of-yet/paperback/product-20266026.htmlSome readers’ comments thus far include: ‘I can’t believe that NASA didn’t think of this already’; ‘it frightens me how much thought you have put into this’, and ‘Wow! I have never ever worried about this. Until now.’ Described as ‘an ability to steer the cart of knowledge along the road of logic to the land of magic pies,’ it’s a snip at only £8.28. Go buy. "I knew Mark’s pain-in-the-arse debating style would pay off some day: he never lets an idea go – nor the opportunity to argue. Faced with a highwayman’s gun in his face, the discussion would likely go thus: Highwayman: Your money or your life! Mark: Actually if you think about it, it’s not ‘your money OR your life’ – because assuming I don’t give you my money and you take my life, you are also going to take my money. Correct? Highwayman: Ye-es Mark: So in fact, it’s not ‘my money OR my life’ – it’s ‘my money OR my money AND my life.’ Correct? Highwayman: (scratching his head) Er – I suppose… Mark: This logical relationship can be best described by the logical denotation ‘and/or’ – or alternatively, the ‘or-and-or’ series of logic gates. According to Normington’s Formal Logic, the relationship between ‘and’ and ‘or’, OR that between ‘and’ and ‘and/or’ (continues chuntering on, not realising that highwayman has left in disgust.)" So off you pop then pets...an erudite and excessively pedantic naturopath in Leicester needs your support.
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Post by BadBeast on Jul 23, 2012 14:03:42 GMT -5
Just what this World needs. Another clever bastard. A really real Highwayman would have let him get as far as "Actually if you think about it . . . . " then shot him in the face, robbed him, and violated his womenfolk. Then ridden off into the night, singing "I'm the Dandy Highwayman that you're too scared to mention" to himself. But I shall certainly read his book when the opportunity presents, because I'm actually quite fond of "clever bastards".
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Post by Michelle on Jul 23, 2012 15:59:42 GMT -5
What's promulgating? And do you need a condom?
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Post by ayezatulbrite on Jul 23, 2012 17:46:00 GMT -5
"Mark: Actually if you think about it, it’s not ‘your money OR your life’ – because assuming I don’t give you my money and you take my life, you are also going to take my money. Correct?"
Mark is wrong! Money is a subset of life. So without life there is none of the attendant money. After all, you can't take it with you. So for all intents and purposes, it is irrelevant once you're dead. The question of inheritance is a more complicated matter, since inheritance is a subset of money!
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Post by ayezatulbrite on Jul 23, 2012 17:46:59 GMT -5
What's promulgating? And do you need a condom? it's a suburb of profligate
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Post by BadBeast on Jul 23, 2012 21:46:24 GMT -5
When this brazen Jack o' the Lanes says "Your money or your life!" he's clearly giving Mark the choice of how much he's ready to lose at this point. Either he hands over his money, thereby choosing option A. Or he opts for alternative B, which is to defend said money, with life, resulting in loss of life. (At which point, the money is lost anyway)
Clearly, Mark's plan is to obfuscate this Dandy Jack using logic. (pretty shaky logic, at that) When in reality, there is no logical basis for his approach to affect the outcome of such an encounter. The robber isn't robbing Mark because of some point of deduction he's falsely arrived at, he doesn't care to argue the toss with his quarry, thereby increasing the risk of this already reckless venture, he wants one, clear, resolution to this transaction. To ride away with Mark's gold. One of two ways.
Mark's life is only important at this point, to Mark. Shady Dick stands to gain no extra prize for killing Mark, but is quite prepared to do so if it becomes necessary in order to achieve his primary objective. To attempt to befuddle Jack, is Mark trying to force him into killing him, and taking his money. But in a totally ineffectual passive aggressive manner. After listening to him wibble on like that, there's many a footpad would just kill Mark out of principle. For thinking him stupid enough to be swayed by such a irrelevant argument. Or just out of plain annoyance.
Because let's be clear, Mark's reaction is not one of defiance. His money isn't any safer in his pocket because of this.. His reaction, in the context of such an encounter, is nothing but mockery, and derision for his protagonist. And thereby, worthless, and ultimately futile.
But as an example of his style of arguing, it makes me want to get you to lure him here, under whatever pretext you need, to sharpen his technique up a bit.
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Post by Michelle on Jul 24, 2012 5:09:47 GMT -5
What's promulgating? And do you need a condom? it's a suburb of profligate Haha, very funny. Thanks goodness for on-line dictionaries. It means to "declare or announce", and Nepotism means "to give favor to a friend or relative". See? You can fool only some of the people some of the time. Nice try though. A "suburb" - That's actually quite good. As for trying to negotiate (or just downright confuse) the Highwayman with logic, I think our now totally bemused Highwayman would resort to his one and only line of defence: With no immediate retort coming to mind, he'd shoot him.
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Post by The Mad Hatter on Jul 24, 2012 9:52:29 GMT -5
Sorry, the above example reeks of mental masturbation.
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Post by Michelle on Jul 24, 2012 10:58:27 GMT -5
Well, next time you're getting mugged, try using logic. I'm sure you'll be around to tell me how that works out for you.
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Post by lizardyoga on Jul 24, 2012 13:01:01 GMT -5
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Post by Michelle on Jul 24, 2012 13:03:42 GMT -5
So you're to blame. Grrrr!
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Post by StormInateacup on Jul 24, 2012 13:04:07 GMT -5
I thought they were all shockingly judgemental - not to mention fucking rude!!
eta: 'part from Beastie that is, who had the style and wit to see the quality inherent within such prevaricating...being wot that he's prone to the like himself.
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Post by Michelle on Jul 24, 2012 15:01:54 GMT -5
Sorry SE. Didn't mean to be rude.
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Post by ayezatulbrite on Jul 24, 2012 19:41:20 GMT -5
so is this a bit like Edward de Bono or something?? this book thing!?
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Post by StormInateacup on Jul 24, 2012 20:05:24 GMT -5
so is this a bit like Edward de Bono or something?? this book thing!? De Bono?...Wot - The fuckwit who proposed we send Marmite to Israel and Palestine as a means of solving the middle east crisis? Thinking laterally he said, that as people either love it or hate it that would give them something to argue about that was less contentious that territorial incursions and total disarmament would soon follow. NO!! These are GOOD ideas!
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