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Post by StormInateacup on Sept 8, 2012 21:19:01 GMT -5
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Post by StormInateacup on Sept 8, 2012 21:31:39 GMT -5
Serving and Veteran members of that radical left wing, anti American institution (heavy irony) the USMC also see clearly what these wars of aggression have cost the American people in terms of quality of life, human rights and value for their hard work, loyalty, tax dollars and rhe blood of their soldier children, husbands, wives, siblings. www.occupy-marines.org/2012/05/28/us-police-vs-us-military-veterans-is-deadly-force-the-norm/I do not Jenne despite what you and Witchy ans Marisol might have been led to think...hate Americans. I hate what is done in your name, with your money, at the cost of your blood and the blood of so many other innocents....for the obscene profit of the very very few.
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Post by StormInateacup on Sept 8, 2012 23:33:22 GMT -5
11.32 that will open your eyes to the covert war that has been fought against Pakistan to deliberately destabilise it from within for years. In the name of the Christian Fundamentalist god....and money.
"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything."~Albert Einstein
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Post by StormInateacup on Sept 9, 2012 4:39:05 GMT -5
American military personnel deaths. Korea: 36,940. Vietnam: 58,220 Wounded: 153,303 The Gulf War: 302 Wounded 849 Iraq & Afghanistan 6,280 (This may be low. A lot of deaths during the Bush era went unreported and uncounted officially as a PR measure.): Wounded: 41,936 NB: In none of the conflicts do the figures quoted for wounded include psychologically damaged soldiers. In Iraq and Afghanistan currently, more American soldiers die of suicide than die in battle. This has been the case for at least a year. These figures are not included either. They are hard to track down from what you might regard as a reliable ie: official source. But the Pentagon has admitted to it. americanfreepress.net/?p=1276Are they fucking kidding? They diont know?? People commit suicide because they have lost hope. Your own soldiers have lost hope in it ever being over. Of there being any point to it all. It's a fucking human tragedy - and Americans are prime among the victims of it. I don't hate Americans. I hate the bastards running the death machines that are killing us all. There is one race as far as I am concerned. The human race. And these pricks doing this - they're our enemy.
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Post by Jenne on Sept 9, 2012 10:28:03 GMT -5
No, it's just that barfing a lot of what looks to be PROPOGANDA at us (and you also make the mistake of preaching to a large section of your choir, as a matter of fact--we aren't the ones making war, and though Charley's a veteran, you won't find him supporting any of the above measures your vehemently against)...it does rather look like you have a hard on for the US. (Ever notice how putting U and S together it inherently looks like the pronoun "us"? I think that little factoid can mess with a lot of communication online.)
Be that as it may...what America does with its military doesn't erase in ANY sense the fuckedupness of Pakistan. What the Pakistan military does to incite and perpetuate the violence (violence against women and children, those same women and children we brought here, to be with us, as my in-law family). Pakistan takes a lot of money from the US and sticks it right back into its own war machine to kill, train killers and further the Taliban (and there for Al Qaeda) movement.
*shrug* Whatever evils are being perpetrated over there BY the US military, I feel NO compunction whatsofuckingever about going in, taking out OBL, and then going on our merry way. He was being housed in a military training facility, in plain view. FUCK Musharref and his mealy-mouthing bullshit, and FUCK the two headed hydra relationship the US has put up with for years in trying to make sure the Pakistanis don't nuke its precious neighbors into oblivion because its leadership is so full of little OBLs.
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Post by The Mad Hatter on Sept 9, 2012 11:24:43 GMT -5
It isn't just the U.S. Other nations often join the party, including Australia and the U.K. Often the U.N. plays as well. War and killing isn't just a U.S. trait, it's a human trait.
In almost all cases you will find greed at the root of it all.
WWII was the last righteous war ever fought.
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Post by Jenne on Sept 9, 2012 11:31:14 GMT -5
MY WORLD VIEW:
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Post by marisol on Sept 9, 2012 14:35:12 GMT -5
I suppose no Americans died during these coflicts. We had our force shields up, huh! Oh, I forgot we heal immediately. Why do we go elsewhere to have these wars. Because they are not here and we don't want them here. Ok I'm a power hungry American. Is that what ya wanna hear? Did you ever think you're blaming a whole country for the decisions of a few. Yeah we elect these people to make the hard decisions. Just remember they don't call me before they make the decisions.
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Post by marisol on Sept 9, 2012 14:55:17 GMT -5
[/img] Though we are of many heritages, we will fight as one today. Attachments:
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Post by The Mad Hatter on Sept 9, 2012 15:02:36 GMT -5
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Post by marisol on Sept 9, 2012 15:09:59 GMT -5
I stole that picture from Draco on another site. Everyone thinks we are war-mongers now. You have seen nothing until we are all united. I wish I had lived several hundred years ago. I may have been happier with the Cherokee, than I am with the people of the world today. Maybe America would not be hated as it is today.
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Post by marisol on Sept 9, 2012 15:26:56 GMT -5
Maybe Australia or the UK would be in our position and they could try to defend themselves.
I feel angry and sad at the world today. I wish everyone would visit before they judge. You can't make up for your hateful words by stating how many US soldiers died in what conflict. We know how many of our families have been killed by wars, that are not our own. We know there will be more. You should hope we'll be around when you need us.
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Post by marisol on Sept 9, 2012 17:20:50 GMT -5
Do not be so quick to judge what you read in print or believe because it comes from your finest papers. Pakistan has imprisoned Dr Afridi because he disclosed where a terrorist lived. No trial no hope. Their own citizen. Pakistan is a country that supports terrorists. They have told the US he will never be seen again. His family barely escaped kidnapping. Who is the bad guy?
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Post by marisol on Sept 9, 2012 19:28:09 GMT -5
Let us mind our money and our blood. Why do you say you are so concerned about us. You try to teach the Middle East to act like human beings. Then come back and tell us how to do it. I've lost my patience with ya.
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Post by StormInateacup on Sept 13, 2012 15:05:16 GMT -5
No, it's just that barfing a lot of what looks to be PROPOGANDA at us (and you also make the mistake of preaching to a large section of your choir, as a matter of fact--we aren't the ones making war, and though Charley's a veteran, you won't find him supporting any of the above measures your vehemently against)...it does rather look like you have a hard on for the US. (Ever notice how putting U and S together it inherently looks like the pronoun "us"? I think that little factoid can mess with a lot of communication online.) Be that as it may...what America does with its military doesn't erase in ANY sense the fuckedupness of Pakistan. What the Pakistan military does to incite and perpetuate the violence (violence against women and children, those same women and children we brought here, to be with us, as my in-law family). Pakistan takes a lot of money from the US and sticks it right back into its own war machine to kill, train killers and further the Taliban (and there for Al Qaeda) movement. *shrug* Whatever evils are being perpetrated over there BY the US military, I feel NO compunction whatsofuckingever about going in, taking out OBL, and then going on our merry way. He was being housed in a military training facility, in plain view. FUCK Musharref and his mealy-mouthing bullshit, and FUCK the two headed hydra relationship the US has put up with for years in trying to make sure the Pakistanis don't nuke its precious neighbors into oblivion because its leadership is so full of little OBLs. Here's some more propaganda for you. From a Congressional Hearing this time. Another anti American organisation. War crimes in an Afghan soldiers hospital run by the US Army. The whistle blowers were three US Colonels. I suspect their careers have just taken a sudden downturn, but like Occupy Marines, they seem to have more of an interest in truth and freedom and than a lot of your elected Reps...or in fact a few of you here. You can close your eyes and ears, write me off as some anti American nut job all you like - but these are all documented FACTS. www.buzzfeed.com/rebeccaelliott/horror-hospital-the-most-shocking-photos-and-test
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