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Post by StormInateacup on May 23, 2012 0:02:05 GMT -5
No...well that would be because we're all civilised human beings who know how to relate to other civilised human beings - and can laugh at absurdity and not be always on the lookout take things as a personal affront at the least opportunity to do so.
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Post by The Mad Hatter on May 23, 2012 0:07:41 GMT -5
Yeah, there is always that.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 8:20:37 GMT -5
Hey I think it went down quite well and I was sober thru the whole thing so There was no nasty name calling, questioning of parentage, no feeding frenzy or flouncing. All in all I was very impressed and rather enjoyed the debate. I can see both sides. I understand that these people are treated terribly in their own country and those surrounding it, however, I can also see where they have practically destroyed any chance of empathy due to their behavior and penchant for crime. We have similar issues here across the country. In some areas it's the blacks, in some it's the hispanics and then in others it's the Bosnians. They do come here and they do take resources from citizens, I'm not saying if it's right or wrong, I'm just saying it happens. I tend to go with the thought that everyone deserves a chance to live free and be happy as long as they follow the laws of the country, city, state they are in. Of course there is no harvesting of organs here in the US, we just run them down then say they were a donor.
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Post by philipkduck on May 23, 2012 14:09:17 GMT -5
To restate my argument : Looking back on it, I think it was the phrase “traveling folk” that did it for me, and the implication of racism. If I was being racist I don’t care, but I don’t think I was. I don’t really think Pikeys are a race. Isn’t that what Pikey means - not real Gypsies ? Of course they will play the race card and can depend on sympathy from liberal do-gooders. “Folk”. Sounds lovely doesn’t it ? There is nothing folksie-wolksie about English Pikeys. They are pathologically and culturally dishonest and criminal. But of course, they are special people. The law does not apply to them, nor do niceties like someone else’s ownership of land or planning permission. A group of Pikey women and children used to frequent jumble sales in the Slough area when I used to go book buying there. They had no concern for queuing. They picked pockets in the mad rush of the sale and never paid for what they picked up. But hey, that’s OK. They are special people.
I recall another incident. My windscreen was smashed so that my tax disc could be taken, just after I had bought it. They caught the little cunt who did it - a nine year old kid. He knew enough at that age to go for a disc with the maximum time left on it, obviously not for his own car, but to sell to an adult who could display it fraudulently instead of paying for a disc. Freedom man ! To live outside the law you must be honest, right on! (Except that is the one thing they are not.) Anarchy ! Away with the Raggle-Taggle Gypsies Oh ..... Bollocks.
The main fuel for yesterday’s argument was the utterly spurious connection made between English Pikeys and East European Gypsies. Organ harvesting and all that crap has no place in a discussion about English Pikeys (which started with a fun post from B.W.Bear by the way.) There is no connection, but it made for good cheap emotive fuel for the fire.
My only direct experience of the Romanian beggar phenomenon (1990s?) was when I still visited the book market on the South Bank in London. A small gang of ‘beggars’ worked the crowds, with babies in arms. I had some sympathy until another bookseller said he had seen them commuting in from East London every morning, season tickets and all. Then it emerged that they were being ‘managed’ by heavy looking guys in sharp suits. I expect they have moved on to something more lucrative by now. Cue tirades against terrible terrible exploitation (boo fucking hoo)...... I don’t actually care about that, and I was not talking about it. I was talking about thieving, lowlife English Pikeys.
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Post by MOLEY on May 23, 2012 14:28:27 GMT -5
To restate my argument : Looking back on it, I think it was the phrase “traveling folk” that did it for me, and the implication of racism. If I was being racist I don’t care, but I don’t think I was. I don’t really think Pikeys are a race. Isn’t that what Pikey means - not real Gypsies ? Of course they will play the race card and can depend on sympathy from liberal do-gooders. “Folk”. Sounds lovely doesn’t it ? There is nothing folksie-wolksie about English Pikeys. They are pathologically and culturally dishonest and criminal. But of course, they are special people. The law does not apply to them, nor do niceties like someone else’s ownership of land or planning permission. A group of Pikey women and children used to frequent jumble sales in the Slough area when I used to go book buying there. They had no concern for queuing. They picked pockets in the mad rush of the sale and never paid for what they picked up. But hey, that’s OK. They are special people. I recall another incident. My windscreen was smashed so that my tax disc could be taken, just after I had bought it. They caught the little cunt who did it - a nine year old kid. He knew enough at that age to go for a disc with the maximum time left on it, obviously not for his own car, but to sell to an adult who could display it fraudulently instead of paying for a disc. Freedom man ! To live outside the law you must be honest, right on! (Except that is the one thing they are not.) Anarchy ! Away with the Raggle-Taggle Gypsies Oh ..... Bollocks. The main fuel for yesterday’s argument was the utterly spurious connection made between English Pikeys and East European Gypsies. Organ harvesting and all that crap has no place in a discussion about English Pikeys (which started with a fun post from B.W.Bear by the way.) There is no connection, but it made for good cheap emotive fuel for the fire. My only direct experience of the Romanian beggar phenomenon (1990s?) was when I still visited the book market on the South Bank in London. A small gang of ‘beggars’ worked the crowds, with babies in arms. I had some sympathy until another bookseller said he had seen them commuting in from East London every morning, season tickets and all. Then it emerged that they were being ‘managed’ by heavy looking guys in sharp suits. I expect they have moved on to something more lucrative by now. Cue tirades against terrible terrible exploitation (boo fucking hoo)...... I don’t actually care about that, and I was not talking about it. I was talking about thieving, lowlife English Pikeys. I know you was dear chap they don't deserve sympathy. I heard the Big Issue was another scam there's a lot of scamming bastages out there preying on the weak minded and vulnerable.
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Post by BadBeast on May 23, 2012 14:58:38 GMT -5
To restate my argument : Looking back on it, I think it was the phrase “traveling folk” that did it for me, and the implication of racism. If I was being racist I don’t care, but I don’t think I was. I don’t really think Pikeys are a race. Isn’t that what Pikey means - not real Gypsies ? Of course they will play the race card and can depend on sympathy from liberal do-gooders. “Folk”. Sounds lovely doesn’t it ? There is nothing folksie-wolksie about English Pikeys. They are pathologically and culturally dishonest and criminal. But of course, they are special people. The law does not apply to them, nor do niceties like someone else’s ownership of land or planning permission. A group of Pikey women and children used to frequent jumble sales in the Slough area when I used to go book buying there. They had no concern for queuing. They picked pockets in the mad rush of the sale and never paid for what they picked up. But hey, that’s OK. They are special people. I recall another incident. My windscreen was smashed so that my tax disc could be taken, just after I had bought it. They caught the little cunt who did it - a nine year old kid. He knew enough at that age to go for a disc with the maximum time left on it, obviously not for his own car, but to sell to an adult who could display it fraudulently instead of paying for a disc. Freedom man ! To live outside the law you must be honest, right on! (Except that is the one thing they are not.) Anarchy ! Away with the Raggle-Taggle Gypsies Oh ..... Bollocks. The main fuel for yesterday’s argument was the utterly spurious connection made between English Pikeys and East European Gypsies. Organ harvesting and all that crap has no place in a discussion about English Pikeys (which started with a fun post from B.W.Bear by the way.) There is no connection, but it made for good cheap emotive fuel for the fire. My only direct experience of the Romanian beggar phenomenon (1990s?) was when I still visited the book market on the South Bank in London. A small gang of ‘beggars’ worked the crowds, with babies in arms. I had some sympathy until another bookseller said he had seen them commuting in from East London every morning, season tickets and all. Then it emerged that they were being ‘managed’ by heavy looking guys in sharp suits. I expect they have moved on to something more lucrative by now. Cue tirades against terrible terrible exploitation (boo fucking hoo)...... I don’t actually care about that, and I was not talking about it. I was talking about thieving, lowlife English Pikeys. You should write for the Daily Mail.
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Post by philipkduck on May 23, 2012 15:45:10 GMT -5
To restate my argument : Looking back on it, I think it was the phrase “traveling folk” that did it for me, and the implication of racism. If I was being racist I don’t care, but I don’t think I was. I don’t really think Pikeys are a race. Isn’t that what Pikey means - not real Gypsies ? Of course they will play the race card and can depend on sympathy from liberal do-gooders. “Folk”. Sounds lovely doesn’t it ? There is nothing folksie-wolksie about English Pikeys. They are pathologically and culturally dishonest and criminal. But of course, they are special people. The law does not apply to them, nor do niceties like someone else’s ownership of land or planning permission. A group of Pikey women and children used to frequent jumble sales in the Slough area when I used to go book buying there. They had no concern for queuing. They picked pockets in the mad rush of the sale and never paid for what they picked up. But hey, that’s OK. They are special people. I recall another incident. My windscreen was smashed so that my tax disc could be taken, just after I had bought it. They caught the little cunt who did it - a nine year old kid. He knew enough at that age to go for a disc with the maximum time left on it, obviously not for his own car, but to sell to an adult who could display it fraudulently instead of paying for a disc. Freedom man ! To live outside the law you must be honest, right on! (Except that is the one thing they are not.) Anarchy ! Away with the Raggle-Taggle Gypsies Oh ..... Bollocks. The main fuel for yesterday’s argument was the utterly spurious connection made between English Pikeys and East European Gypsies. Organ harvesting and all that crap has no place in a discussion about English Pikeys (which started with a fun post from B.W.Bear by the way.) There is no connection, but it made for good cheap emotive fuel for the fire. My only direct experience of the Romanian beggar phenomenon (1990s?) was when I still visited the book market on the South Bank in London. A small gang of ‘beggars’ worked the crowds, with babies in arms. I had some sympathy until another bookseller said he had seen them commuting in from East London every morning, season tickets and all. Then it emerged that they were being ‘managed’ by heavy looking guys in sharp suits. I expect they have moved on to something more lucrative by now. Cue tirades against terrible terrible exploitation (boo fucking hoo)...... I don’t actually care about that, and I was not talking about it. I was talking about thieving, lowlife English Pikeys. You should write for the Daily Mail. Ooh, that's put me in my place hasn't it ? That's invalidated me. Because the daily mail is easy shorthand for bad, isn't it ? I am cut to the quick. I am writing for here, not the daily Mail. And I am writing the truth. Inconvenient truth perhaps, but truth nonetheless.
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Post by BadBeast on May 23, 2012 16:53:52 GMT -5
You should write for the Daily Mail. Ooh, that's put me in my place hasn't it ? That's invalidated me. Because the daily mail is easy shorthand for bad, isn't it ? I am cut to the quick. I am writing for here, not the daily Mail. And I am writing the truth. Inconvenient truth perhaps, but truth nonetheless.
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Post by bigwillybear on May 23, 2012 17:15:40 GMT -5
Hey Quackers! See that daily mail newspaper. The one with a free pinup of William Hague as a centre spread. That's your porno mag that is.
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Post by MOLEY on May 23, 2012 17:33:04 GMT -5
I think Badbeast should write for the Daily Pikey fnnarh hic bahf feck it need-a-shite "Me boi go a gun butt hees agud boi"Jimmy dnit doe it shokcked so iam.
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Post by The Mad Hatter on May 23, 2012 18:09:58 GMT -5
I think salt and vinegar are my favorite flavored potato chips.
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Post by Random Panther on May 23, 2012 18:13:46 GMT -5
Sweet chilli is mine,but I could eat most things so long as it's sweet chilli flavoured.
Generally speaking I'm no fan of crisps.
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Post by The Mad Hatter on May 23, 2012 18:16:32 GMT -5
There's the language thing again. Crisps, eh?
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Post by Random Panther on May 23, 2012 18:22:38 GMT -5
Potatoe chips in America land are crisps in Ireland and the UK...and french fries are chips.
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Post by The Mad Hatter on May 23, 2012 18:26:39 GMT -5
What do you call hash browns?
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